Yes, even if I had an ounce of faith or trust in Western allopathic medicine at all, I would still avoid the AI slop and prefer to be misdiagnosed and die, rather than have AI generate a single token on my account. Despite being in the technological industry by profession, I will be an anti AI neo-Luddite until my last breath. There is nothing that AI can do to win me over because at the core, it’s just outsourcing responsibilities as well as wasting time, money, and effort that could be spent on real humans performing these tasks. It’s a cop out. It’s weak, pathetic, laziness disguised as productivity.
Instead of focusing on our own species actual benefit, we see the repeated use of AI cause cognitive decline:
The whole love of AI doing things humans should be doing is akin to people valuing their pets lives over other humans. Whatever the ism is for being anti your own species, this is it in a new form. First fur babies, now we have techno babies.
I can personally attest that AI is a better therapist than any of the 3 therapists, a 1 shrink I've used over the past 8 years. No question. And It's all going in a book someday because this last week has been mindblowing with how good it is.
This is the consequence of medical practitioners turning from the art and science of their craft, and becoming algorithmic button punchers for Pharmaceutical , Hospital admin, and Insurance bureaucracies.
They dehumanized themselves, and now the inhuman does their work better than they do.
Nothing makes my heart race like hearing that the medical industry has an asteroid heading right for it.
I am on Team Asteroid! We can finally rebuild the medical system after all these places go bankrupt and stop shutting down anyone else trying to get a foot in to stop their criminality.
Since they won't go to prison, they can at least go to welfare.
Yea i get where you are coming from. As an atheist, systems like these often makes me long for a spiritual explanation, if only to somehow grok the dysfunctionality of it. I read X-Men as a kid and hoped science would give us awesome people with adamantium skeletons; instead, science chose to mutilate young people.
And that is where you will find the seed of faith. Ask yourself why the scientists made that choice, and you will begin to see that evil is real and Man needs saving from it.
Fascinating and a little terrifying. Medicine is one of those fields where measurable outcomes matter more than intuition, and AI is showing exactly why. Maybe the bigger question now is how we redefine the human role in medicine if diagnosis itself is no longer our comparative advantage.
The issue remains who is training the AI and what resources are being used. Pattern recognition is going to be much better for a machine than for most people, but it still has to have the patterns given to it. With the recent trends to increase equity in medical care, published guidelines have changed and have eliminated well-established racial differences regarding certain diseases.
The programmers, like the doctors and veterinarians, are going to need to have good discernment and be able to critically evaluate new findings and therapeutics. This is where independent AI and personal AI are going to be extremely useful. They can be curated to help weed out garbage and help build a better base from which to draw conclusions. They can also be added to, augmenting information that doesn’t get published in journals or shared otherwise
Over the past few years, there has been a rise of commercial doctors who prioritize keeping patients in their system for as long as possible. I hope that AI can help end this practice by shifting the focus of healthcare. However, AI alone won't be enough due to its potential for bias and errors, so it must be used wisely.
A friend of mine got real sick real fast - something something liver problem. He trusts me more than actual doctors by now so he directly sent me his labs. I used AI with some Q&A back and forth and eventually came up with:
•What his condition is
•That his doctors are likely to misdiagnose him as condition X, due to one of his test markers being somewhat obscure but recently known to actually demonstrate that the entire thing is condition Y
•What the doctors will give him, what of those things he should and which he should absolutely not take
•What to ACTUALLY take to fix it and links to the product
•A decision tree on what to do if X, Y or Z happens
•An actual testable timetable of recovery and expected symptoms for recovery vs getting worse.
All the above took me 2 days to compile in my free time off work. I eagerly awaited the doctor's diagnoses to test myself against him and, much to my chagrin, it took the doctor THREE WEEKS to even schedule seeing him and another week to get to the misdiagnosis I predicted on day 2. He wasn't even wrong as fast as I could be right about it! Even worse they didn't perform as well as the baseline expectation AI said they would have - they missed a key medicine that should have been included in the misdiagnosis.
In closing my friend ignored all the doctor's advice while pretending to accept it, got better as outlined in the AI-augmented treatment in a month, and the doctors gave him the health all-clear later on with no idea how it happened. "Sometimes people just mysteriously get better, no one knows why". Those idiots would have seriously injured my friend's liver and they expected the treatment, and its costs, to go on for years.
They just killed someone I know by diagnosing him with liver cancer (before it starts!) and then proceeding to cut his liver in half again and again until he couldn't leave the ER and died.
If he had never been tested, he would probably be alive today. Maybe with a tumor growing in his liver, maybe not. They were safe, and now he's dead. Medicine!
"Sometimes people just mysteriously get better..."
The lack of curiosity is what really burns about that mindset. How many people could actually be helped if that knowledge was shared and studied? But no, it just sort of happened, and the next victim - er, patient - will follow the protocols as expected, and continue to worsen. Also as expected. The worst part is, most doctors really believe they're helping.
If Doctors were curious people, evolutionary theory would have never made it past step 1.
It would have been rejected at the first "so the 2/10th Giraffe, who runs slowly and can't reach the tall trees yet survives a million years, because they are super sexier than the fast horses who can evade predators?"
Only through completely uniniterested people who became the social authority could these stupid ideas become so cemented.
Ironically, this is not going to affect some areas where the criteria are pragmatic, the risks high, and there are no diagnostic tests. The very best will survive because they know when the algorithm is wrong or inappropriate.
But this is the death knell for the nurse practitioner and the doc who does not have 40000 hours of practice done.
Yes, even if I had an ounce of faith or trust in Western allopathic medicine at all, I would still avoid the AI slop and prefer to be misdiagnosed and die, rather than have AI generate a single token on my account. Despite being in the technological industry by profession, I will be an anti AI neo-Luddite until my last breath. There is nothing that AI can do to win me over because at the core, it’s just outsourcing responsibilities as well as wasting time, money, and effort that could be spent on real humans performing these tasks. It’s a cop out. It’s weak, pathetic, laziness disguised as productivity.
Instead of focusing on our own species actual benefit, we see the repeated use of AI cause cognitive decline:
https://mlq.ai/media/quarterly_decks/v0.1_State_of_AI_in_Business_2025_Report.pdf
The whole love of AI doing things humans should be doing is akin to people valuing their pets lives over other humans. Whatever the ism is for being anti your own species, this is it in a new form. First fur babies, now we have techno babies.
I can personally attest that AI is a better therapist than any of the 3 therapists, a 1 shrink I've used over the past 8 years. No question. And It's all going in a book someday because this last week has been mindblowing with how good it is.
I am studying medicine right now
Seeing this individually is scary af cause diagnosis and treatment is something that is right up the alley for AI
It's data heavy and pattern recognition and algorithmic.
But on an individual level what can I do vox? By the time I become a doctor AI would have advanced a lot
Should I go for surgery?
Would love to know your opinion knowing you already predicted many current societal conditions many years ago
good thing is healthcare will get way way better with this
This is the consequence of medical practitioners turning from the art and science of their craft, and becoming algorithmic button punchers for Pharmaceutical , Hospital admin, and Insurance bureaucracies.
They dehumanized themselves, and now the inhuman does their work better than they do.
It's satanic.
It’s taken 20 years but “computer assisted diagnosis” as I used to call it way back when is finally arriving.
'Please state the nature of the medical emergency.'
Nothing makes my heart race like hearing that the medical industry has an asteroid heading right for it.
I am on Team Asteroid! We can finally rebuild the medical system after all these places go bankrupt and stop shutting down anyone else trying to get a foot in to stop their criminality.
Since they won't go to prison, they can at least go to welfare.
Yea i get where you are coming from. As an atheist, systems like these often makes me long for a spiritual explanation, if only to somehow grok the dysfunctionality of it. I read X-Men as a kid and hoped science would give us awesome people with adamantium skeletons; instead, science chose to mutilate young people.
And that is where you will find the seed of faith. Ask yourself why the scientists made that choice, and you will begin to see that evil is real and Man needs saving from it.
Scientists did it, Science is just a concept. Scientists are people who like to torture and dismember animals while being praised.
Fascinating and a little terrifying. Medicine is one of those fields where measurable outcomes matter more than intuition, and AI is showing exactly why. Maybe the bigger question now is how we redefine the human role in medicine if diagnosis itself is no longer our comparative advantage.
Considering what we learned about doctors since 2020, looks about right.
The new tech is here
Related: Wranglerstar showed off a very fit physique that he accomplished by asking AI for a workout/diet regime and executing on it.
He probably has better than average willpower, but fitness is a subset of medical application.
Did he show what prompt or dialog process he used to get the AI to provide the workout and diet regime?
Don't recall. You can check his video for whatever details he shared.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YaKHrc5_w6M
Thank you Sir. And now off to the AI for a transcript and summary of said video...
And the AI replies "The speaker doesn't quote his exact prompts verbatim, but based on his description, he used the following types of prompts:"
Very helpful.
The issue remains who is training the AI and what resources are being used. Pattern recognition is going to be much better for a machine than for most people, but it still has to have the patterns given to it. With the recent trends to increase equity in medical care, published guidelines have changed and have eliminated well-established racial differences regarding certain diseases.
The programmers, like the doctors and veterinarians, are going to need to have good discernment and be able to critically evaluate new findings and therapeutics. This is where independent AI and personal AI are going to be extremely useful. They can be curated to help weed out garbage and help build a better base from which to draw conclusions. They can also be added to, augmenting information that doesn’t get published in journals or shared otherwise
Over the past few years, there has been a rise of commercial doctors who prioritize keeping patients in their system for as long as possible. I hope that AI can help end this practice by shifting the focus of healthcare. However, AI alone won't be enough due to its potential for bias and errors, so it must be used wisely.
AI sure will revolutionize jobs, I just find it hilarious that it also brought AI racism, haha, I won’t have a damm clanker doctor
I can offer a personal anecdote -
A friend of mine got real sick real fast - something something liver problem. He trusts me more than actual doctors by now so he directly sent me his labs. I used AI with some Q&A back and forth and eventually came up with:
•What his condition is
•That his doctors are likely to misdiagnose him as condition X, due to one of his test markers being somewhat obscure but recently known to actually demonstrate that the entire thing is condition Y
•What the doctors will give him, what of those things he should and which he should absolutely not take
•What to ACTUALLY take to fix it and links to the product
•A decision tree on what to do if X, Y or Z happens
•An actual testable timetable of recovery and expected symptoms for recovery vs getting worse.
All the above took me 2 days to compile in my free time off work. I eagerly awaited the doctor's diagnoses to test myself against him and, much to my chagrin, it took the doctor THREE WEEKS to even schedule seeing him and another week to get to the misdiagnosis I predicted on day 2. He wasn't even wrong as fast as I could be right about it! Even worse they didn't perform as well as the baseline expectation AI said they would have - they missed a key medicine that should have been included in the misdiagnosis.
In closing my friend ignored all the doctor's advice while pretending to accept it, got better as outlined in the AI-augmented treatment in a month, and the doctors gave him the health all-clear later on with no idea how it happened. "Sometimes people just mysteriously get better, no one knows why". Those idiots would have seriously injured my friend's liver and they expected the treatment, and its costs, to go on for years.
They just killed someone I know by diagnosing him with liver cancer (before it starts!) and then proceeding to cut his liver in half again and again until he couldn't leave the ER and died.
If he had never been tested, he would probably be alive today. Maybe with a tumor growing in his liver, maybe not. They were safe, and now he's dead. Medicine!
"Sometimes people just mysteriously get better..."
The lack of curiosity is what really burns about that mindset. How many people could actually be helped if that knowledge was shared and studied? But no, it just sort of happened, and the next victim - er, patient - will follow the protocols as expected, and continue to worsen. Also as expected. The worst part is, most doctors really believe they're helping.
If Doctors were curious people, evolutionary theory would have never made it past step 1.
It would have been rejected at the first "so the 2/10th Giraffe, who runs slowly and can't reach the tall trees yet survives a million years, because they are super sexier than the fast horses who can evade predators?"
Only through completely uniniterested people who became the social authority could these stupid ideas become so cemented.
Ironically, this is not going to affect some areas where the criteria are pragmatic, the risks high, and there are no diagnostic tests. The very best will survive because they know when the algorithm is wrong or inappropriate.
But this is the death knell for the nurse practitioner and the doc who does not have 40000 hours of practice done.
I've been using AI for medical matter for the last year. Most general practicioner doctors are just googling things anyway.